Number Plates that are no good
Posted by Sajith M on Nov 11th, 2006
2006
Nov 11
the letters of the registration mark shall be in English and the figures shall be in Arabic numerals - Rule 77, Chapter 3; The Central Motor Vehicles Rules, 1989
Guess this mean that meaning of “English letters” and “Arabic numerals” has changed.
Our traffic cops have perfected the art of reading number plates from far (ever noticed how accurately they can stop vehicles with TN, KL, AP, DL etc registrations?), but they still can’t find (or at least I have not seen them stopping) these vehicles carrying number plates that very few people can read.
Posted under: On The Road/Random Observations
November 12th, 2006 at 02:03:53
Hmm..
they are in kannada.
Having number plates in kannada is wrong. period.
I had a friend fined for putting his name on the number plate(English). Another for putting kannada numerals. So, police are not blind to these.
However, your innuendo about bengalooru police catching only non-karnataka vehicles is just that, a chauvinistic viewpoint.
About non-KA number plates. I *support* police stopping and checking their licenses and documents. If you look at your copy of central motor vehicles act, a non-state vehicle has to pay road tax to ply on the roads of another state. So, people from all over want to ride on the roads of karnataka and dont want to pay road tax even after being here for considerable amount of period. How is that correct in your books?
Since you are anyway flapping the rule book around, why dont you quote the correct dimensions for indo-arabic numerals for vehicles and tell us honestly whether your vehicle is fulfilling that criteria . AND whether ALL your documents are in order.
You seem to have an agenda of spitting on local people and you find an excuse to do it. Stop that silly game.
November 12th, 2006 at 12:15:07
Good Shot man… we need more pics from you:).
As you have already pointed out it is illegal.
Meanwhile - ever wondered why we need outside vehicles to be registered with local states ? This should end - this is something which has carried on for ages, and should be done away with. In this era of modern communication, its not quite needed. But we do not have administrators who are planning ahead - only ones who are reacting.
What you say abt non-KA vehicles is true; just a fact - no chauvanism there.
November 12th, 2006 at 14:35:46
http://www.dmvnv.com/nvreg.htm
Even US has rules about out of state registered vehicles. Checking out of state vehicles is a matter of enforcement of those rules.
“”In this era of modern communication, its not quite needed.”"
Pray tell me why your bluetooth toting, laptop swinging highness thinks that modern communication and driving on roads are connected.
November 12th, 2006 at 18:00:34
Actually there is enough pro kannada noise these days, to leave even a kannada lover like me nauseated. Its not surprising that the state has picked up a fight with all its neighbouring states.
DotSlash - What is being discussed here is that there can be a single database for vehicle registration, there is not need to register it everytime you change a city or a state. Did you recently swing your laptop on your head and hurt yourself?
November 12th, 2006 at 18:05:16
Very interesting pic man… these guys are able to go around with such number plates, because they know they will not be fined… obviously.
November 13th, 2006 at 11:24:12
Apun Ka Desh, CoolGuy, Yes, even I think we should have a system where you can pay tax in any state and it be valid across the nation. Unfortunately, does not look like its going to happen anytime soon (if at all)
dotslash, my intention was just to point out that our traffic police personnels are very good at spotting KL, TN, AP, DL etc from far but don’t seem to notice kannada letters. I have seen vehicles with kannada registration pass before the concerned officers without being stopped while the officers move into middle of the road to stop a non-karnataka vehicle.
Vijay, I have never seen a vehicle being stopped for having kannada number plates. Guess you are correct. But as dotslash pointed out, maybe they do get fined once in a while.
Btw dotslash, my papers are in order and registration plate is also in order.
November 13th, 2006 at 12:24:11
@ CoolGuy
“Its not surprising that the state has picked up a fight with all its neighbouring states.”
Hmm.. even if a thug beats you up, you end up “being in the fight” right?
* Maha Dy.CM wants to “align” with Kerala to attack Karnataka. He even makes threatening statements on stage. None of the kannada politicians are doing that to my knowledge.
* Goa object to kalasa-banduri project just for the heck of it, even when they stand to lose nothing by the project.
* Dont even get me started on kaveri water issues..
So, your accusation is not based on facts entirely.
“Did you recently swing your laptop on your head and hurt yourself?”
Sorry, I dont own one. ;)
“What is being discussed here is that there can be a single database for vehicle registration, there is not need to register it everytime you change a city or a state.”
Hmm. thats a good idea, if implemented correctly. Even assuming that states share their databases with rest of the country, what about road taxes ? will they share it? And if you did not know it, state governments have to pay for the road you use (its another matter that they don’t do it well).
And without the police officer being able to look up your data using a device on the road, what is the use of having a centralised database?
sumne funda hoDadre aagallamma, swalpa yochane-noo maaDbeku, aayta?
November 13th, 2006 at 12:26:56
“Btw dotslash, my papers are in order and registration plate is also in order.”
Great! the interwebs are a place where one gets carried away while commenting. I appreciate your candour :)
November 13th, 2006 at 15:44:30
Dotslash - Agree with most of the arguments you made here. But, whatever you say, the present government is overdoing the “Proud to be a Kannadiga” thing (no problem with that) as a ploy to deflect attention from its promise-heavy substance-less performance.
Sajith - keep up man, waiting for more pics.
November 13th, 2006 at 17:17:26
DotSlash> Based on what you are saying, looks like you are right. It couldn’t have been a laptop, a whole whole fell on you .. hehehe.. jokes apart… don’t be such a chauvanist man. Keep it cool, its all nice fun banter here.. and yes every blog writer has the right to voice his opinion, just like you have the right to voice your stinking one ;-) hehe.
We eagerly await more pics.
November 19th, 2006 at 20:11:19
Whatz ur problem with kannada number plates ? What ur isuues with catching non-KA vehicles ??? If they are correct they will b left out if not as usual…. Situation is same in all states as there first target will b outside vehicles.
Why u r always pointing out mistakes of locals ?????
U R here to earn ur bread & butter,Just consentrate on that.
If not u need a screw up !!!
Mind before bloging…..
November 20th, 2006 at 14:16:32
Hey Man,
Remember u r talking only about Central Motar Act, However any state has an facility to ammemend the act & as per the Karnataka Motar act any vehicle in the state can display kannada number in one side of the vehicle.
Mind….
This is not ur fathers state to critisie the things..
November 20th, 2006 at 22:45:31
Kariya,
Whatz ur problem with kannada number plates?
My fundamental problem is that I can\’t read them (and a majority of road users can\’t read them either), so in the event that one of them hits me or anyone else I am unable to even file a complaint.
Why u r always pointing out mistakes of locals?????
Does than mean that you agree that its wrong?
U R here to earn ur bread & butter,Just consentrate on that.
Of course, I will concentrate on that. But I can\’t ignore what happens around me. I like Bangalore as a city and most Bangaloreans I have met. Sorry, but someone commenting adveresely on my blog is not going to stop me from criticising what I consider wrong.
Any state has an facility to ammemend the act & as per the Karnataka Motar act any vehicle in the state can display kannada number in one side of the vehicle.
Yes, vernacular numbers can be displayed on one side if you are displaying your registration number on both side (right and left as seen on BMTC Buses). As per my limited understanding, it does not mean that you can have numbers in Roman on the front plate of your bike and in Kannada on the rear plate. Btw, any links to Karnataka Motor Vehicles Act?
This is not ur fathers state to critisie the things..
What makes you feel that the last two comments of yours are going to stop me from criticising what I think is wrong. Oh, you are most welcome to try though.
November 21st, 2006 at 16:22:49
You told that u cant read the number plates in kannada & that is the issue u have…
When you learn .net,Java,C++ for earnings why cant u learn kannada numbers for ur safety(or to complain) ???
It is not only mistakes, Anything which comes from locals that looks like mistakes for outsiders… eg: Name change.
I dont have any link but if u check with the rule book with RTO u can get the info from FAQ’s(Number 30-32).
November 24th, 2006 at 13:57:24
The buses do not even display their destinations in English.
Vehicles do not have english number plates and nobody cares - this is illegal. If you are not sure go speak to traffic folks.
Is this your father’s state? hahaha… pls provide us lesser mortals with all important information on this.
And yes - pls concentrate on earning bread/butter and some sugar too.. it will make you better. LoL.
The IT industry has directly hit the brains of many locals - this is the reason they act in such aggressive manner towards everyone. Ofcourse i love Kannada, and many kannadiga’s..
And before you forget: Karnata has dispute with EACH of its neighbours. Does that tell you something?
October 3rd, 2007 at 12:18:28
This isnt with ref to just Bangalore police …But yes…in other states, they dont harrass people so much for other state registration .
Even KA regd vehicles ply a lot in other states…like TN, Kerala etc. So Pls stop carrying ur agenda forward…
Here , we are only discussing that vehicle registration and road tax data be made centralised. A transferable employee who already spends a lot of money to adapt to new conditions cant afford to pay road tax ( that too lifetime.. RTO ppl dont take annual road tax …even though the rule books say so…. Pls chk out with ur RTO ) each time he is transferred.
I guess its time that a centralised database be maintained and ppl just need to register their vehicle once !! the centre can then plan to distribute some state (as compensation for having more out-of-state vehicles plying the roads) .
And by the way, if you see, the police here are very specific to catch non KA bikes… ask them for PUC certificatess..but what about KA lorries…. most of them dont even have rear-lights…and every day on ring road u can see atleast 5-6 lorries laden with sand or stone broken down (broken axles) on the centre of the road with no warning lights or reflectorss…!! And the rule book says goods l;orries must take fitness certificate every 6 months!!
January 10th, 2008 at 03:19:59
Very good points by DotSlash.. :)
February 12th, 2008 at 15:14:03
Agree fully to Sajith who started this thread ! The local police sort of derive a sexual pleasure detaining non-KA vehicles & demanding the draconian papers like noc/local tax/puc etc. At the same time they don’t care if some BMTC bus or lorry goes past bathing all in a cloud of black soot. It’s high time the India govt. abolished these regional rules which are meant only for filling the pockets of the political-leader-bastards and started maintaining a uniform database.
And the regional sentiment so vehemently expressed by dot-slash & his chamchas are entirely out of place as regards this discussion. We’re not discussing that crap here.
“And without the police officer being able to look up your data using a device on the road, what is the use of having a centralised database?” –> None takes exception to police officers doing routine checkups, it’s their duty; it’s only their attitude of harassing any non-KA vehicle which is wrong. And for all I know, these dime-a-dozen coppers can be abated by throwing a Rs.100 note in their face ! Pathetic bribe-seekers !
Being in Bangalore & earning my livelihood here, I don’t mind learning the local language or mingling with the culture here… In fact I am doing that bit as much as I can… But this sort of coercion is not required for that. It should come from ones’ mind. None has the right to force someone into it !
February 12th, 2008 at 18:46:40
The out siders r virtually raping Bangaloreans.whats the problem in having a kannada number plates for the vehicles?when tamil nadu can write in tamil in buses,why cant we write in kannada?.